Do Dems really want a pull out? Or just a Bush failure....

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's request for nearly $200 billion more to fund the Iraq war will not be approved unless it is linked to a plan to bring home U.S. combat troops by January 2009, the head of the House appropriations committee said on Tuesday.

Rep. David Obey, a Wisconsin Democrat, told a news conference his panel would not even consider the war funding request until early 2008, by which time he estimates funding for military operations will have run out. Defense Secretary Robert Gates recently outlined the request to Congress.

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Obey said he would be more willing to consider the money request if it would also "establish as a goal the end of U.S. involvement in combat operations by January of 2009." That is when the next U.S. president would succeed Bush, who is not allowed to run for a third, four-year term.

Excerpts from Reuters article, "House Democrats urge Jan 2009 pullout".

Make no mistake. If the Dems were genuine in their desires for a troop pullout - knowing full well Bush will not give them and that the votes overriding a veto do not exist - they would just obligate to pull the troops out immediately upon a Dem taking possession of the WH.

But nooooo... not only will they not obligate to doing what they are trying to force Bush to do, they are putting the financial choke hold on our military in the interim. It is not about a troop pullout, which they can do on their own nickel. It is about who will take the blame for the ensuing failure and likely bloodbath. Dems want Bush to take the fall for their meddling into military strategy. Ain't gonna happen, folks.

In the meantime, Pelosi makes the morning humdrum talk show rounds, appearing on The View.

Elisabeth Hasselbeck took up the challenge no one else would... asking Pelosi why she was still demanding a pull out when the surge was apparently working, and the casualty numbers were down

“Now we’re seeing a reduction in those civilian deaths and giving them the space that they do need for that political change. That is happening. In my mind and I’m sure many others, that’s seen as a success.”

Pelosi appeared to struggle with the question before finding a winning line.

“Elisabeth, if I may, with all due respect, there are still a lot of people dying,” she said.

The Politico thinks this is a "winning line"???